Donnie Darko (
tangentdarko) wrote2010-08-23 03:30 am
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.07. [VOICE] it's just simple quantum mechanics & relativity
Look, it's not even funny anymore. This is common sense. Obviously we're assuming the ghosts exist because they're, you know, everywhere and everything.. but scientifically, you're not going to be able to hurt them.
Okay, let's say they're a form of light, right? First of all, that means that they have the ability to act as both waves and photons simultaneously which, for those of you that don't understand science, means that they're not going to travel in any normal pattern. Second, no material object can reach the speed of light, so you're never going to be able to hit them because otherwise the whole time = 1 / ((1 – (v² / c²))^(1/2)), where c = the speed of light in a vacuum and v = object velocity, just wouldn't work and the whole universe might collapse, so.. ccht.
If they're radio waves, then they have to be traveling at the speed of light in order for us to be able to theoretically see them and everyone knows that radio waves traveling at the speed of light actually shift back in time, so they would be able to know what you're doing before you do and avoid anything you could do to them.
There's also the option of dualism, I guess.. if you believe that kind of thing. If you're assuming it's a kind of echo of a living being who's passed, then you're talking about quantum field theory, where like.. what you have is just attributes or features of the body, like smaller particles made from the motion and speed of other particles. Something has just become another something in an extremely counter-intuitive way, so they couldn't be hurt because there's not really a particle to hurt.. just the property of a particle.
The only other option is if they're actually a tangible entity, but given that they can appear and disappear, not to mention changing forms.. ffff, heh.. then you have to be talking about the ghost existing in a parallel universe or different dimension or whatever and just visible through the intersecting of time and space where the ghost is made of exchange particles acting as a bridge between the entangled particles of the different universes, but.. that's completely theoretical.
I know you can't just lump everything into these categories, but it seems to make sense given that none of them can be affected in any way. So stop trying.
Okay, let's say they're a form of light, right? First of all, that means that they have the ability to act as both waves and photons simultaneously which, for those of you that don't understand science, means that they're not going to travel in any normal pattern. Second, no material object can reach the speed of light, so you're never going to be able to hit them because otherwise the whole time = 1 / ((1 – (v² / c²))^(1/2)), where c = the speed of light in a vacuum and v = object velocity, just wouldn't work and the whole universe might collapse, so.. ccht.
If they're radio waves, then they have to be traveling at the speed of light in order for us to be able to theoretically see them and everyone knows that radio waves traveling at the speed of light actually shift back in time, so they would be able to know what you're doing before you do and avoid anything you could do to them.
There's also the option of dualism, I guess.. if you believe that kind of thing. If you're assuming it's a kind of echo of a living being who's passed, then you're talking about quantum field theory, where like.. what you have is just attributes or features of the body, like smaller particles made from the motion and speed of other particles. Something has just become another something in an extremely counter-intuitive way, so they couldn't be hurt because there's not really a particle to hurt.. just the property of a particle.
The only other option is if they're actually a tangible entity, but given that they can appear and disappear, not to mention changing forms.. ffff, heh.. then you have to be talking about the ghost existing in a parallel universe or different dimension or whatever and just visible through the intersecting of time and space where the ghost is made of exchange particles acting as a bridge between the entangled particles of the different universes, but.. that's completely theoretical.
I know you can't just lump everything into these categories, but it seems to make sense given that none of them can be affected in any way. So stop trying.
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Unfortunately, I'm not one, so why the hell do you think anyone cares?
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If you don't care, then you don't have to read it. It's not like I was talking to you specifically. Ffft. I mean, I don't even know who you are, why would I talk to you? I was just making an announcement for people in general, in case they didn't know yet.
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No, but do you really think anyone actually cares about your announcement? They've got more important things on their minds, surely, than you rationalising ghosts.
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You know, you might be right about no one caring, but.. I've got to be honest with you.. I don't really give a shit if they don't.
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Just saying you're wasting your time. Which I imagine is quite valuable right now.
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Not really. I'm waiting for Irene to show up so we can go find our wardens.
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Do you really need help?
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I don't know, but I don't want to go down there alone again if I don't have to. Are you going down there alone?
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I'm doing what I have to. If it means going alone, it means going alone.
He doesn't really pay attention..
Well, what is it you have to do? If it's saving your warden or whatever, then you could go with someone else and then you wouldn't have to risk going alone and getting yourself killed, which guarantees that you would fail rather than like, waiting for someone else.
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I'm not leaving anyone to that longer than I have to. Nothing down there'll kill us. I'm armed.
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Is it bad I know what most of that means? :c Damn you science.
What in sam hell are you talking about?
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It's awesome. <3
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I don't know about that..
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Don't be a coward, they need rescuing and that comes first, surely.
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The brainy types thought it was something to do with frequencies. Personally, I only cared how to end it.
Don't matter what you think is possible. It's still looking at you like you're dinner.
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I'm going to rescue them, I'm just not stupid enough to try it alone if I don't have to.
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I know what I've had to go up against and I know what I am.
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That's great for you. Then you can take your theories and whatever fake science exists on your planet and live by that. In the mean time, I'm going to count on the real science.
Oh, and by the way, everyone on the Barge is scientifically possible, so.. ccht.. I don't even know where you're getting that idea.
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Fake science... It's called life, kid. Back in the day, they'd've burned you for turning on a pocket calculator. Hell, I remember back when they used to say 'science' proved people'd die if they went a few miles faster in their cars. Then someone else came along and showed 'em where they were wrong.
Yeah, you go sit there and imagine what can and can't be real. In the meantime, the rest of us'll actually deal with it until your fancy numbers catch up with reality.
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Well, until someone comes around and proves Einstein's theories of Relativity wrong, or Bell's Theorem, or whatever wrong, I'm going to have to believe it's still good science.
Are you really that stupid that you didn't even read what I wrote?
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These two will never get on... :c
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...Ghosts aren't light.
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fucking magnets, how do they work?]Is your point that ghosts go through walls, they can go through your bullets?
<3
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he's so nice :(
Donnie's like 'whatever'.
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Fff.. I don't even know how you could not see that.
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