tangentdarko: (cant tell what we dont know)
Donnie Darko ([personal profile] tangentdarko) wrote2010-08-23 03:30 am

.07. [VOICE] it's just simple quantum mechanics & relativity

Look, it's not even funny anymore. This is common sense. Obviously we're assuming the ghosts exist because they're, you know, everywhere and everything.. but scientifically, you're not going to be able to hurt them.

Okay, let's say they're a form of light, right? First of all, that means that they have the ability to act as both waves and photons simultaneously which, for those of you that don't understand science, means that they're not going to travel in any normal pattern. Second, no material object can reach the speed of light, so you're never going to be able to hit them because otherwise the whole time = 1 / ((1 – (v² / c²))^(1/2)), where c = the speed of light in a vacuum and v = object velocity, just wouldn't work and the whole universe might collapse, so.. ccht.

If they're radio waves, then they have to be traveling at the speed of light in order for us to be able to theoretically see them and everyone knows that radio waves traveling at the speed of light actually shift back in time, so they would be able to know what you're doing before you do and avoid anything you could do to them.

There's also the option of dualism, I guess.. if you believe that kind of thing. If you're assuming it's a kind of echo of a living being who's passed, then you're talking about quantum field theory, where like.. what you have is just attributes or features of the body, like smaller particles made from the motion and speed of other particles. Something has just become another something in an extremely counter-intuitive way, so they couldn't be hurt because there's not really a particle to hurt.. just the property of a particle.

The only other option is if they're actually a tangible entity, but given that they can appear and disappear, not to mention changing forms.. ffff, heh.. then you have to be talking about the ghost existing in a parallel universe or different dimension or whatever and just visible through the intersecting of time and space where the ghost is made of exchange particles acting as a bridge between the entangled particles of the different universes, but.. that's completely theoretical.

I know you can't just lump everything into these categories, but it seems to make sense given that none of them can be affected in any way. So stop trying.
acid_rayne: (Actor - Bored)

[personal profile] acid_rayne 2010-08-23 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not moving at the speed of light and people can see me... Careful you don't disappear up your own equation, there, guy.

[identity profile] tangentdarko.livejournal.com 2010-08-23 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you made of radio waves? No.
acid_rayne: (Default)

[personal profile] acid_rayne 2010-08-23 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe not, but there's at least one ex-half-sister of mine who could do it.

The brainy types thought it was something to do with frequencies. Personally, I only cared how to end it.

Don't matter what you think is possible. It's still looking at you like you're dinner.

[identity profile] tangentdarko.livejournal.com 2010-08-23 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
You can't move at frequencies of the radio spectrum and remain visible. It's not possible and it doesn't matter what I think is possible. It's about what brilliant, genius scientists knew was possible, things which haven't been proven wrong in the hundreds of years or decades that they have been around, despite the exponential leap in scientific discovery and the advancement of technology.
acid_rayne: (Speak)

[personal profile] acid_rayne 2010-08-23 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry. Your scientific genius friends don't know shit. Hell, they'd probably say half the passengers on ship were 'impossible', too.

I know what I've had to go up against and I know what I am.

[identity profile] tangentdarko.livejournal.com 2010-08-23 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
You're so full of shit-- Whatever.

That's great for you. Then you can take your theories and whatever fake science exists on your planet and live by that. In the mean time, I'm going to count on the real science.

Oh, and by the way, everyone on the Barge is scientifically possible, so.. ccht.. I don't even know where you're getting that idea.
acid_rayne: (Finger)

[personal profile] acid_rayne 2010-08-23 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, sure they are! We've had vampires, robots, fucking genocidal time-ravelling aliens, angels, demons and gods! But, oooh, someone throws a few ghosts in your equation and all of a sudden they can't possibly exist!

Fake science... It's called life, kid. Back in the day, they'd've burned you for turning on a pocket calculator. Hell, I remember back when they used to say 'science' proved people'd die if they went a few miles faster in their cars. Then someone else came along and showed 'em where they were wrong.

Yeah, you go sit there and imagine what can and can't be real. In the meantime, the rest of us'll actually deal with it until your fancy numbers catch up with reality.

[identity profile] tangentdarko.livejournal.com 2010-08-23 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
What? [Long pause.] I'm saying the ghosts do exist and I'm mathematically explaining their presence with physics and quantum mechanics..

Well, until someone comes around and proves Einstein's theories of Relativity wrong, or Bell's Theorem, or whatever wrong, I'm going to have to believe it's still good science.

Are you really that stupid that you didn't even read what I wrote?
acid_rayne: (Red)

[personal profile] acid_rayne 2010-08-23 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
No, you're saying they have to fit your paradigm of how to exist. Sometimes, shit just happens.

[identity profile] tangentdarko.livejournal.com 2010-08-23 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, since my theories seem to be explaining them just fine, I don't see why you need to challenge it.. unless you just want to argue everything.
acid_rayne: (Red)

These two will never get on... :c

[personal profile] acid_rayne 2010-08-23 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)